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Just got my $20.00 rebate check in the mail from Quaker State for my first oil change using their full syn 5W/30. Also enrolled in Quaker State 300,000 mile engine warranty program. (10 years or 300,000 miles and is transferable). Quaker State promises that if you make 10 years/300,000 miles using their oil, they will then pay you the KBB book value for your Santa Fe at that time. Basis of what I have seen of my little Sport 2.0T, we should have no problem making it. On the Quaker State website is a piece about some people who have easily made it with their vehicles. Funny how Mobil 1, the so-called leader of the pack, isn't promising anything or putting a warranty on anything long-term. I ran Mobil 1 in the past, usually at a price premium, but those days are gone for me. Quaker State untill I die or until I reach 300,000 miles or 10 years, whichever comes first. Mobil 1 never paid me 20 bucks.
 

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Just got my $20.00 rebate check in the mail from Quaker State for my first oil change using their full syn 5W/30. Also enrolled in Quaker State 300,000 mile engine warranty program. (10 years or 300,000 miles and is transferable). Quaker State promises that if you make 10 years/300,000 miles using their oil, they will then pay you the KBB book value for your Santa Fe at that time. Basis of what I have seen of my little Sport 2.0T, we should have no problem making it. On the Quaker State website is a piece about some people who have easily made it with their vehicles. Funny how Mobil 1, the so-called leader of the pack, isn't promising anything or putting a warranty on anything long-term. I ran Mobil 1 in the past, usually at a price premium, but those days are gone for me. Quaker State untill I die or until I reach 300,000 miles or 10 years, whichever comes first. Mobil 1 never paid me 20 bucks.
have you been using syntho since new? how many miles and oil changes do you have? i've seriously considered it but the lack of data/input from others got me waiting.
 

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......Funny how Mobil 1, the so-called leader of the pack, isn't promising anything or putting a warranty on anything long-term. I ran Mobil 1 in the past, usually at a price premium, but those days are gone for me. Quaker State untill I die or until I reach 300,000 miles or 10 years, whichever comes first. Mobil 1 never paid me 20 bucks.



Just because you've chosen one great oil, no need to be critical of another one. Both the SOPUS and ExxonMobil variants are that, great synthetic oils. Both have the critical HTO-06 turbo protection cert from Honda/Acura and deliver fantastic UOA's. Take a look at:
http://www.pqiamerica.com/samplesummaryPCMOrev4test.htm, it will show how PQIA tested various oil samples.
 

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......Funny how Mobil 1, the so-called leader of the pack, isn't promising anything or putting a warranty on anything long-term. I ran Mobil 1 in the past, usually at a price premium, but those days are gone for me. Quaker State untill I die or until I reach 300,000 miles or 10 years, whichever comes first. Mobil 1 never paid me 20 bucks.



Just because you've chosen one great oil, no need to be critical of another one. Both the SOPUS and ExxonMobil variants are that, great synthetic oils. Both have the critical HTO-06 turbo protection cert from Honda/Acura and deliver fantastic UOA's. Take a look at my signature, it will show how PQIA tested various oil samples.
OOPS!!! Not being critical. Just saying that I paid a premium for Mobil 1 in the past but will not do so in the future and that Mobil offers no incentives for their product. I first started using synthetic oil back in the 70s when a product called EON 1 came out. At that time, the Houston PD put iit in all of their cruisers to cut cost and save engines in the Texas heat. Would run the stuff in my Ford Club Wagon for 25,000 miles and drain it. Black as road tar but protected the engine like crazy for 10 years. I me t the German scientist, Dr. Herman Bruson, who helped develop synthetic oils for the Nazis to use in their tanks during World War II. Basic chemistry of all of these oils is the same. They are made from the half-esters of sebacic acid. Where they may differ is in their additive packages. However, since the inception of these products, patents have expired and they are now all clones of each other. Sorry for this elongated reply. Just recalling my past experiences with syn thetics.
 

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Lol... Not a problem at all. I understand completely.
Here is one for us oil junkies. Before I purchased my SFS 2.0T, I was driving a 2010 Chrysler Town&Country Limited minivan which had Chrysler's 4.0L V6 in it. This was their V6 that was replaced by the new PENTASTAR V-6. My van would use a quart of Mobil 1 every 1000 miles. Van was under warranty and I asked the dealer why I had to add 3 quarts of synthetic between oil changes. Answer was that this is how the engine worked. I did the math and realized that every DIY oil change on the van was costing me about $55.00 just in oil alone ( cost of 5 qts at oil change + 3 qts used every 3000 miles. I just drove my SFS from Virginia to Texas and have put about 2000 miles on this little guy in 10 days and the mark on the oil dipstick has not moved. This confirms what I knew in spite of what the Chrysler dealer tried to convince me of --- a good engine does not have to use oil in order to perform properly. Imagine what would happen during a NASCAR race if those puppies were using oil. During a pit stop over 500 miles, the add fuel and change tires but they don't add oil.
 

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The nature of reciprocating internal combustion engines does mean a little oil consumption will happen (a thin coat of oil goes in between the piston rings and cylinder walls, and the combustion event will burn that off), but the amount is supposed to be negligible. One quart every thousand miles is unacceptable on a modern engine, point-blank period. My 2001 Mitsubishi Galant (and the 2003 Galant I owned before that) would go upwards of 8,000 miles between oil changes, and the dipstick level wouldn't budge. The Honda Odyssey we had, however, would need a quart every 3,000 miles, and the two warm-up catalysts were going bad when we traded it in because of it. Long story short, no, an engine doesn't need to consume large amounts of oil to function.
 

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As stated by Wetamup2013, every engine manufacturer designates acceptable perameters for oil consumption for its vehicles. 1qt every 1000 miles is a ridiculous amount for anything other than a rotary design. The Pentastar v6 is not a bad engine but something was definately wrong with yours, unfortunately.
 

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Here is one for us oil junkies. Before I purchased my SFS 2.0T, I was driving a 2010 Chrysler Town&Country Limited minivan which had Chrysler's 4.0L V6 in it. This was their V6 that was replaced by the new PENTASTAR V-6. My van would use a quart of Mobil 1 every 1000 miles. Van was under warranty and I asked the dealer why I had to add 3 quarts of synthetic between oil changes. Answer was that this is how the engine worked. I did the math and realized that every DIY oil change on the van was costing me about $55.00 just in oil alone ( cost of 5 qts at oil change + 3 qts used every 3000 miles. I just drove my SFS from Virginia to Texas and have put about 2000 miles on this little guy in 10 days and the mark on the oil dipstick has not moved. This confirms what I knew in spite of what the Chrysler dealer tried to convince me of --- a good engine does not have to use oil in order to perform properly. Imagine what would happen during a NASCAR race if those puppies were using oil. During a pit stop over 500 miles, the add fuel and change tires but they don't add oil.

Wow, the only car I ever owned that used that much oil was a 1936 Chevy, AND NO, I didn`t buy it new...LOL
 
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