[dghii]

Last month, we traded in our 2017 SFS 2.0T Ultimate on a new 2021 SF Limited 2.5T. The SFS had been great...to a point we'd added almost 68K miles on it since purchase in 12/16. I planned to trade the car on a 2020 SF 2.0T Limited due to good pricing and incentives on the vehicle but after driving the 2021, we really liked the way the car felt and it's performance we beyond what I would have expected.

One new thing on the 2021 is included bumper to bumper maintenance for 3 years or 36K miles. That's great but the first oil change is at 8K miles or 1 year. On the 2017, the first oil change was at 3K miles for the 2.0T.

Given the 2.5L turbo is a new engine for the car this year, I didn't want to take a chance and went ahead and changed the oil and filter at 800 miles. I'm glad I did as I could see tiny shiny bits in the filter. Maybe I'm too cautious but there's a good chance we keep this vehicle well past warranty so what the heck.

I've owned BMW's. Their maintenance intervals were extended like crazy when BMW started paying for all maintenance for 4yrs/48months back in the late 90's. 30K transmission flushes were now 'lifetime" intervals (same fluid). Oil changes went from 5K miles to 1 year, 10K miles. You get the idea.

I'm concerned Hyundai maybe taking the same road.

Just my .02. Filter was $17 at the dealership (not readily available anywhere else yet). Oil was $20. Now I feel better about having to wait a year for the next free change, if I make it that long!

 

[EnonEye]

Mnfcrs have no incentive for anyone to keep their cars beyond 10 yrs. My '02 has 140k now, always changed oil/filter every 5k. Hey I like the car; goes like crazy in bad weather, leather, heated seats, remote mirrors, cruise, autotemp, auto-dim rearview mirror, anti-lock breaks, V-6 power, 20+mpg, amazing technology for '02. Keeps my newer one looking new. You're doing the right thing. Buyer beware used ones (previously rental) with long mileages between oil changes.

 

[Mark A]

Toyota and Honda have gone to 10K mile oil change intervals, which I believe is the minimum for in the EU due to environmental regulations. But they also specify full synthetic motor oil. What motor oil is specified for the 2021 2.5 Turbo (viscosity and other specification in the owner's manual)?

Generally, 0W-20 motor oil is only available as a synthetic, although there are a couple of synthetic blend 0W-20 motor oils.

 

[dghii]

Per the manual
The 2.5 is 0W-20 synth
the 2.5T is 0W-30 synth
I couldn't find 0W-30 locally so used 0W-20. I will most likely go to 5W-30 for future changes on my dime. Our weather is temperate so not worried about super cold starts.
So far, we are very happy with the car! Can't believe the tech in a car like this. Dual clutch tranny is amazingly quick and seamless. I haven't played with sport mode much but bet it'd be a blast. Car feels very solid.

 

[Mark A]

Per the manual
The 2.5 is 0W-20 synth
the 2.5T is 0W-30 synth
I couldn't find 0W-30 locally so used 0W-20. I will most likely go to 5W-30 for future changes on my dime. Our weather is temperate so not worried about super cold starts.
So far, we are very happy with the car! Can't believe the tech in a car like this. Dual clutch tranny is amazingly quick and seamless. I haven't played with sport mode much but bet it'd be a blast. Car feels very solid.

I would not use 0W-20 if 0W-30 is specified for the Turbo engine. I would use 5W-30 full synthetic instead. The first number (0W) is not as important as the second number (30, which is the required viscosity at operating temperatures) so long as the 5W-30 is a full synthetic. If it were me, I would use Mobil 1 EP (extended protection) 5W-30, which costs about $27 for a 5-quart jug at Walmart.

 

[Rodneya]

Last month, we traded in our 2017 SFS 2.0T Ultimate on a new 2021 SF Limited 2.5T. The SFS had been great...to a point we'd added almost 68K miles on it since purchase in 12/16. I planned to trade the car on a 2020 SF 2.0T Limited due to good pricing and incentives on the vehicle but after driving the 2021, we really liked the way the car felt and it's performance we beyond what I would have expected.

One new thing on the 2021 is included bumper to bumper maintenance for 3 years or 36K miles. That's great but the first oil change is at 8K miles or 1 year. On the 2017, the first oil change was at 3K miles for the 2.0T.

Given the 2.5L turbo is a new engine for the car this year, I didn't want to take a chance and went ahead and changed the oil and filter at 800 miles. I'm glad I did as I could see tiny shiny bits in the filter. Maybe I'm too cautious but there's a good chance we keep this vehicle well past warranty so what the heck.

I've owned BMW's. Their maintenance intervals were extended like crazy when BMW started paying for all maintenance for 4yrs/48months back in the late 90's. 30K transmission flushes were now 'lifetime" intervals (same fluid). Oil changes went from 5K miles to 1 year, 10K miles. You get the idea.

I'm concerned Hyundai maybe taking the same road.

Just my .02. Filter was $17 at the dealership (not readily available anywhere else yet). Oil was $20. Now I feel better about having to wait a year for the next free change, if I make it that long!

How much oil does the 2.5T engine take? I cannot find it anywhere and the owners manual does not have any capacity/specs section. Thank you.

 

[Mark A]

How much oil does the 2.5T engine take? I cannot find it anywhere and the owners manual does not have any capacity/specs section. Thank you.

On page 2-12 of the Owner's Manual it says that both the 2.5 and 2.5T need 6.13 US qt. for a drain and refill.

Full synthetic API SN PLUS (or above), ILSAC GF-6, or ACEA A5/B5 is specified. If a lower grade engine oil (mineral oil including semi-synthetic or synthetic blend) is used, then the engine oil and engine oil filter must be replaced as indicated for severe maintenance condition.

Refer to page 2-14 for the recommended viscosity level of the oil. For the 2.5T, they recommend 0W-30, but you could use 5W-30 Full Synthetic unless you are in a very cold climate. Most Walmart's sell Mobil 1 0W-30. Do not use a "European Formula" 0W-30 (it will say that on the label).

All references are from the PDF version of the manual, which was downloaded from the Hyundai website.

 

[Rodneya]

How much oil does the 2.5T engine take? I cannot find it anywhere and the owners manual does not have any capacity/specs section. Thank you.

Thank you so much. On page 2-12 of my (Calligraphy) owners manual are icon descriptions and page 2-14 are climate controls.

 

[Mark A]

Thank you so much. On page 2-12 of my (Calligraphy) owners manual are icon descriptions and page 2-14 are climate controls.

You can download the Owners Manual I was looking at here:

Manuals & Warranties | Hyundai Resources | MyHyundai

The manuals and warranties section of the MyHyundai site will show owners manual information as well as warranty information for your Hyundai.

owners.hyundaiusa.com

 

[Rodneya]

You can download the Owners Manual I was looking at here:

Manuals & Warranties | Hyundai Resources | MyHyundai

The manuals and warranties section of the MyHyundai site will show owners manual information as well as warranty information for your Hyundai.

owners.hyundaiusa.com

You can download the Owners Manual I was looking at here:

Manuals & Warranties | Hyundai Resources | MyHyundai

The manuals and warranties section of the MyHyundai site will show owners manual information as well as warranty information for your Hyundai.

owners.hyundaiusa.com

I found it. Thanks again for all your help. BTW I am a senior member to the Hyundai forum. My first Hyundai was a ~2005 Sonata then I purchased a 2007 Azera.
I just traded my 2017 Azera for the Santa Fe Calligraphy. 2017 was the last year in USA and it was a GREAT car. The dealer told me Hyundai is considering
bringing back the Azera. My wife loved that car so it took some "prying" to switch to the Santa Fe.

 

[KilerPL]

I just got 2021 Preferred with Trend package AWD ( Canadian Version) and i must say I am super disappointed. So many things got cut out from 2020.
Most depressing for me are paper like plastic skid plate that can protect nothing, cartridge type oil filter in plastic shell and facing down ( way too easy to kill that engine even with light camping trip) and lack of diff lock in my package . I think its only available now in higher trims .
They made it for looks not durability .

 

[KilerPL]

Mnfcrs have no incentive for anyone to keep their cars beyond 10 yrs. My '02 has 140k now, always changed oil/filter every 5k. Hey I like the car; goes like crazy in bad weather, leather, heated seats, remote mirrors, cruise, autotemp, auto-dim rearview mirror, anti-lock breaks, V-6 power, 20+mpg, amazing technology for '02. Keeps my newer one looking new. You're doing the right thing. Buyer beware used ones (previously rental) with long mileages between oil changes.

Its funny how it varies by the country. My Santa Fe was made in US yet there is no mention of severe or normal use anymore. It says to replace oil every 5k miles and let me say prices up north are not as low as in US .
22USD for 3$ paper filter . I sure hope someone will start making aftermarket filters soon or better yet some type of mod to convert that plastic shell into spin on filters

 

[Mark A]

Its funny how it varies by the country. My Santa Fe was made in US yet there is no mention of severe or normal use anymore. It says to replace oil every 5k miles and let me say prices up north are not as low as in US .
22USD for 3$ paper filter . I sure hope someone will start making aftermarket filters soon or better yet some type of mod to convert that plastic shell into spin on filters

It is a little confusing, but the service intervals are determined by the local marketing organizations (Hyundai USA, Hyundai Canada), and not by the factory. There are many reasons for this, including different operating conditions (weather, etc), warranty laws that differ by country, warranty terms that differ (Hyundai USA has 10-year/100K mile powertrain warranty and Canada does not), and what the competition is doing in that same market. The Hyundai OEM paper filters are generally reasonably priced in the USA, but I don't know specifically about the 2021 Santa Fe.

 

[Mark A]

I just got 2021 Preferred with Trend package AWD ( Canadian Version) and i must say I am super disappointed. So many things got cut out from 2020.
Most depressing for me are paper like plastic skid plate that can protect nothing, cartridge type oil filter in plastic shell and facing down ( way too easy to kill that engine even with light camping trip) and lack of diff lock in my package . I think its only available now in higher trims .
They made it for looks not durability .

As far as paper cartridge type filters, the whole industry is moving that way due to environmental reasons (waste disposal). There are over 1 billion cars on the road worldwide, and in the EU they have pushed for the paper filters to cut down on amount of waste disposal from oil changes. It is not easy to recycle metal filters.

Just about all Germain cars (MB, BMW, Audi, etc) use the plastic oil filter housing, and I have one on my Hyundai Genesis. Many of the Germain oil filter systems with plastic housings are made by Mahle (https://www.mahle.com/en/products-and-services/passenger-cars/oil-management/).

I think the skid plates are more for aero-dynamics than for protection. Even the slightest reduction in air turbulence can improve fuel economy.

 

[KilerPL]

As far as paper cartridge type filters, the whole industry is moving that way due to environmental reasons (waste disposal). There are over 1 billion cars on the road worldwide, and in the EU they have pushed for the paper filters to cut down on amount of waste disposal from oil changes. It is not easy to recycle metal filters.

Just about all Germain cars (MB, BMW, Audi, etc) use the plastic oil filter housing, and I have one on my Hyundai Genesis. Many of the Germain oil filter systems with plastic housings are made by Mahle (https://www.mahle.com/en/products-and-services/passenger-cars/oil-management/).

I think the skid plates are more for aero-dynamics than for protection. Even the slightest reduction in air turbulence can improve fuel economy.

Thanks for reply
Do you use torque wrench to tight those or just hand tight . I am afraid i will crack it one day. Does not seem very sturdy. Removable plastic and hot oil is not a good combo in my opinion. Only time will tell.

 

[Mark A]

Thanks for reply
Do you use torque wrench to tight those or just hand tight . I am afraid i will crack it one day. Does not seem very sturdy. Removable plastic and hot oil is not a good combo in my opinion. Only time will tell.

On my Hyundai Genesis, I don't use a torque wrench on the plastic oil filter cover. I do use a 27mm socket wrench and probably put about 20 ft lbs of torque (sorry, don't know the metric equivalent).

It is very important to make sure the rubber O-rings are properly positioned and lubricated with oil before tightening.

I did buy a spare plastic filter cover, but never used it, as it appears to be fairly strong. Not all plastics are the same.