Only 300 miles on mine so far. The dct is definitely different and hates creeping. I try to go slow on our gravel driveway or even just pulling slowly into the garage and you can tell it doesn't like it. Agree on the buttons as it's a little overwhelming at first.
'23 Santa Fe Limited 2.5T 1300 mile review
I received my Santa Fe on March 9 and have about 1300 miles on it now. I'm really liking it and thought I'd post up my thoughts on it so far.
I'll start with the negative stuff first:
The Limited and Calligraphy (at least in the US) don't come with a spare tire. I bought an aftermarket complete spare kit which for now I just keep in the back of the car. I'll pick up a carrier for it when Hyundai comes out with one for the 2023 model year. I know that there are carriers out there but not specifically for a '23. I'll wait for one that will fit for sure.
It has paddle shifters which I love, but the transmission won't stay in that manual mode. I reverts back to 'D' after a very short while.
No wireless Android Auto. It works well when plugged in. But why? My '19 Sorrento had wireless Android.
There are a lot of buttons. I prefer actual buttons and switches instead of touch screen for everything, but while driving, there's a lot of buttons to peruse when looking for what you want. Over time though, they will become memorized I guess.
Next is things that are not bad but just OK:
So far that is just the push button trans. It works. No more, no less.
Now for the things that I like:
I find the ride to be very smooth and quiet. The suspension could be a little stiffer though.
I love this 2.5 Turbo. It moves out pretty quickly. Passing on the interstate is effortless. That turbo torque is quite fun.
The seats are comfortable, but not the most comfortable car seats I've ever experienced. But they're good. Heated and cooled.
The radio is a giant upgrade from the radio in the Sorento that I traded in. That radio was pretty much like the transistor radio that I had when I was 9 or 10 and it had no satellite. The Santa Fe radio is much better.
The Santa Fe's MPG calculations are spot on. On my Sorento and my wife's Kia Seltos the car's calculation was optimistic by 10%. If the car read 30 mpg it was really 27 by hand calculation. This Santa Fe is correct to the tenth so far. When I filled up the other day the car was telling me 25.4 mpg and the actual calculation was 25.45. I'm very impressed with that level of reporting.
So that's my story so far. I know that there were some issues with the double clutch trans is the beginning, but I think they are worked out now. At least I hope so.
I'll start with the negative stuff first:
The Limited and Calligraphy (at least in the US) don't come with a spare tire. I bought an aftermarket complete spare kit which for now I just keep in the back of the car. I'll pick up a carrier for it when Hyundai comes out with one for the 2023 model year. I know that there are carriers out there but not specifically for a '23. I'll wait for one that will fit for sure.
It has paddle shifters which I love, but the transmission won't stay in that manual mode. I reverts back to 'D' after a very short while.
No wireless Android Auto. It works well when plugged in. But why? My '19 Sorrento had wireless Android.
There are a lot of buttons. I prefer actual buttons and switches instead of touch screen for everything, but while driving, there's a lot of buttons to peruse when looking for what you want. Over time though, they will become memorized I guess.
Next is things that are not bad but just OK:
So far that is just the push button trans. It works. No more, no less.
Now for the things that I like:
I find the ride to be very smooth and quiet. The suspension could be a little stiffer though.
I love this 2.5 Turbo. It moves out pretty quickly. Passing on the interstate is effortless. That turbo torque is quite fun.
The seats are comfortable, but not the most comfortable car seats I've ever experienced. But they're good. Heated and cooled.
The radio is a giant upgrade from the radio in the Sorento that I traded in. That radio was pretty much like the transistor radio that I had when I was 9 or 10 and it had no satellite. The Santa Fe radio is much better.
The Santa Fe's MPG calculations are spot on. On my Sorento and my wife's Kia Seltos the car's calculation was optimistic by 10%. If the car read 30 mpg it was really 27 by hand calculation. This Santa Fe is correct to the tenth so far. When I filled up the other day the car was telling me 25.4 mpg and the actual calculation was 25.45. I'm very impressed with that level of reporting.
So that's my story so far. I know that there were some issues with the double clutch trans is the beginning, but I think they are worked out now. At least I hope so.
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My FWD Calligraphy DOES have a spare tire
; all you need to do is buy both the carrier, and jack kit/tools (that go under the hatch). Mine is a late '22, but it's identical to a '23, down to the wheels. The consensus why the AWD doesn't come with a spare is that it needs to be the same diameter as the OEM tires (not an excuse IMO), so make sure to buy the appropriate sized tire for that (plenty of threads on that subject). The spare on my Calligraphy is definitely smaller than the giant 20" stock tires.
The paddles don't revert to D in 'sport' mode, which is what I always use. And I use the paddles a lot, especially when coasting, to recharge the battery more (to about 3K rpm). I MUCH prefer the buttons than anything else, so no complaints on that front from me.
Finally, check your build date (a black label at the bottom of the 'B' pillar on the driver's side), to know if your SF could be affected by a bad tranny (or rather, a bad HP oil pump). If the build date is OCT '22 or newer, you should be out of the woods. But if it's anything '23, then you'd be for sure in the clear for that issue. Hope that's the case, because it's not fun to have a possible failure at any moment on the back of your head all the time. Oh well. Good luck with yours.
; all you need to do is buy both the carrier, and jack kit/tools (that go under the hatch). Mine is a late '22, but it's identical to a '23, down to the wheels. The consensus why the AWD doesn't come with a spare is that it needs to be the same diameter as the OEM tires (not an excuse IMO), so make sure to buy the appropriate sized tire for that (plenty of threads on that subject). The spare on my Calligraphy is definitely smaller than the giant 20" stock tires.The paddles don't revert to D in 'sport' mode, which is what I always use. And I use the paddles a lot, especially when coasting, to recharge the battery more (to about 3K rpm). I MUCH prefer the buttons than anything else, so no complaints on that front from me.
Finally, check your build date (a black label at the bottom of the 'B' pillar on the driver's side), to know if your SF could be affected by a bad tranny (or rather, a bad HP oil pump). If the build date is OCT '22 or newer, you should be out of the woods. But if it's anything '23, then you'd be for sure in the clear for that issue. Hope that's the case, because it's not fun to have a possible failure at any moment on the back of your head all the time. Oh well. Good luck with yours.
Thanks for that tip. I did try a little test this morning with the trans in Sport and using the paddles. I did stay in manual mode, UNTIL I came to a complete stop, then it went back to 'D'. I tried it twice and that's what happened both times. But still, if it stays in manual without stopping then that's way better than it was with using the paddles in 'D'.The paddles don't revert to D in 'sport' mode, which is what I always use. And I use the paddles a lot, especially when coasting, to recharge the battery more (to about 3K rpm).
Yes, it goes into D after a stop; forgot to mention that. Wish it had a dedicated manual mode, but other than going back to D at 0 mph (greeted by a 'ding'), it stays in manual mode, so not a big deal. You can select '1' while stopped by pulling the right paddle (and maybe the left one too); I do that often too. And if you want to revert back to D, you can pull the right paddle for a second, or just hit the 'D' button. And again, every time the tranny goes from manual to D, you hear that beep. Kind of annoying, but couldn't find a way to disable it.
Do you notice the ISG (the engine auto stop start feature) when accelerating after a red light?
I turn that off right after starting the car.
I never have that crap on either. Always turn it off after starting the engine, as well as switching to sport mode. I try to time lights, so hardly ever stop for long anyway.
I received my Santa Fe on March 9 and have about 1300 miles on it now. I'm really liking it and thought I'd post up my thoughts on it so far.
I'll start with the negative stuff first:
The Limited and Calligraphy (at least in the US) don't come with a spare tire. I bought an aftermarket complete spare kit which for now I just keep in the back of the car. I'll pick up a carrier for it when Hyundai comes out with one for the 2023 model year. I know that there are carriers out there but not specifically for a '23. I'll wait for one that will fit for sure.
It has paddle shifters which I love, but the transmission won't stay in that manual mode. I reverts back to 'D' after a very short while.
No wireless Android Auto. It works well when plugged in. But why? My '19 Sorrento had wireless Android.
There are a lot of buttons. I prefer actual buttons and switches instead of touch screen for everything, but while driving, there's a lot of buttons to peruse when looking for what you want. Over time though, they will become memorized I guess.
Next is things that are not bad but just OK:
So far that is just the push button trans. It works. No more, no less.
Now for the things that I like:
I find the ride to be very smooth and quiet. The suspension could be a little stiffer though.
I love this 2.5 Turbo. It moves out pretty quickly. Passing on the interstate is effortless. That turbo torque is quite fun.
The seats are comfortable, but not the most comfortable car seats I've ever experienced. But they're good. Heated and cooled.
The radio is a giant upgrade from the radio in the Sorento that I traded in. That radio was pretty much like the transistor radio that I had when I was 9 or 10 and it had no satellite. The Santa Fe radio is much better.
The Santa Fe's MPG calculations are spot on. On my Sorento and my wife's Kia Seltos the car's calculation was optimistic by 10%. If the car read 30 mpg it was really 27 by hand calculation. This Santa Fe is correct to the tenth so far. When I filled up the other day the car was telling me 25.4 mpg and the actual calculation was 25.45. I'm very impressed with that level of reporting.
So that's my story so far. I know that there were some issues with the double clutch trans is the beginning, but I think they are worked out now. At least I hope so.
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25mpg blimey yes that's a bigger engine than here in the UK but are you thrashing it? My hybrid is averaging 42 mpg with combined town and motorway driving and is getting 60 mpg on some short journeys around town and the EV is on loads for just a hybrid. One short journey it stayed on EV all the time and was 212mpg lol. as for the too many buttons no offence why get it then. All touch screens are a real pain taking your eyes off the rd even more
The vehicle I reviewed is not a hybrid.
I know I was merely saying 25mpg is terrible and was purely saying mines a hybrid. We only have a hybrid or plug in hybrid in the uk thankfully
My main complaint is the lack of speed limit offset and speed limit sign reading cameras that the newer Tucson has. The buttons can be overwhelming but I'm getting used to them. The spare tire thing is indeed disappointing.I received my Santa Fe on March 9 and have about 1300 miles on it now. I'm really liking it and thought I'd post up my thoughts on it so far.
I'll start with the negative stuff first:
The Limited and Calligraphy (at least in the US) don't come with a spare tire. I bought an aftermarket complete spare kit which for now I just keep in the back of the car. I'll pick up a carrier for it when Hyundai comes out with one for the 2023 model year. I know that there are carriers out there but not specifically for a '23. I'll wait for one that will fit for sure.
It has paddle shifters which I love, but the transmission won't stay in that manual mode. I reverts back to 'D' after a very short while.
No wireless Android Auto. It works well when plugged in. But why? My '19 Sorrento had wireless Android.
There are a lot of buttons. I prefer actual buttons and switches instead of touch screen for everything, but while driving, there's a lot of buttons to peruse when looking for what you want. Over time though, they will become memorized I guess.
Next is things that are not bad but just OK:
So far that is just the push button trans. It works. No more, no less.
Now for the things that I like:
I find the ride to be very smooth and quiet. The suspension could be a little stiffer though.
I love this 2.5 Turbo. It moves out pretty quickly. Passing on the interstate is effortless. That turbo torque is quite fun.
The seats are comfortable, but not the most comfortable car seats I've ever experienced. But they're good. Heated and cooled.
The radio is a giant upgrade from the radio in the Sorento that I traded in. That radio was pretty much like the transistor radio that I had when I was 9 or 10 and it had no satellite. The Santa Fe radio is much better.
The Santa Fe's MPG calculations are spot on. On my Sorento and my wife's Kia Seltos the car's calculation was optimistic by 10%. If the car read 30 mpg it was really 27 by hand calculation. This Santa Fe is correct to the tenth so far. When I filled up the other day the car was telling me 25.4 mpg and the actual calculation was 25.45. I'm very impressed with that level of reporting.
So that's my story so far. I know that there were some issues with the double clutch trans is the beginning, but I think they are worked out now. At least I hope so.
Hybrid or not, you realize that your mpg is going to be 20% better because your gallons are 20% larger, right?I know I was merely saying 25mpg is terrible and was purely saying mines a hybrid. We only have a hybrid or plug in hybrid in the uk thankfully
I too can't stand the auto start/stop on my '20. Wedged a toothpick into the seam between the buttons and it stays pushed down.I never have that crap on either. Always turn it off after starting the engine, as well as switching to sport mode. I try to time lights, so hardly ever stop for long anyway.
Hybrid in UK none of that nonsense
Let me suggest you think big picture.....it is not miles/gal that counts it is miles/$. When you add up all the additional costs for driving battery powered cars, the miles/$ is a very different picture, beginning with the initial higher price and someday ending with the battery disposal fee that is soon to come. There are and will soon be many additional fees for battery powered cars such as paying for the political public relations campaign for battery powered cars, special taxes to make up for the loss of gas taxes, special import fees for batteries made in communist China, and the list goes on and on. Be careful what you ask for and keep an eye on unfolding electric car disaster unfolding in California.....a real soap opera.Hybrid in UK none of that nonsense
Unfortunately post #16 will come to pass. There is no free ride, you can only minimize your cost to fit your needs/wants.
Suggesting a hybrid is more expensive to own than an ICE is just patently false.Let me suggest you think big picture.....it is not miles/gal that counts it is miles/$. When you add up all the additional costs for driving battery powered cars, the miles/$ is a very different picture, beginning with the initial higher price and someday ending with the battery disposal fee that is soon to come. There are and will soon be many additional fees for battery powered cars such as paying for the political public relations campaign for battery powered cars, special taxes to make up for the loss of gas taxes, special import fees for batteries made in communist China, and the list goes on and on. Be careful what you ask for and keep an eye on unfolding electric car disaster unfolding in California.....a real soap opera.
No wireless Android Auto. It works well when plugged in. But why? My '19 Sorrento had wireless Android.
There are a lot of buttons. I prefer actual buttons and switches instead of touch screen for everything, but while driving, there's a lot of buttons to peruse when looking for what you want. Over time though, they will become memorized I guess.
There are a lot of buttons. I prefer actual buttons and switches instead of touch screen for everything, but while driving, there's a lot of buttons to peruse when looking for what you want. Over time though, they will become memorized I guess.
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